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Attorney Ben Crump had a sit-down with 17-year-old student-athlete, Jai Smith, to discuss how kids can protect themselves when stopped by police.

Based on a study released by American Journal of Public Health, Black men are three times more likely to be killed by police. That fact was the catalyst for the “Tribe Talk” segment with Attorney Crump and hosted by Brand Nolebians, a podcast dedicated to exploring highlights in sports, politics, and lifestyle.

“My son recently got his drivers license and first car,” said Curtis Smith, Brand Nolebians Co-Creator. “As a Father, I wanted to make sure he understands how to properly engage with police and there’s no one more qualified to provide advice than my fraternity brother and mentor, Benjamin L. Crump, Esq.”

Benjamin Lloyd Crump is an American civil rights attorney and founder of the Tallahassee, Florida-based law firm Ben Crump Law. He has represented the families of Trayvon Martin, Michael Brown and, most recently, Pamela Turner, the pregnant Texas woman killed by a police officer.

In the five-point video, Attorney Crump highlights tips such as keeping hands in sight, speaking concisely, and not making any sudden movements. “Unfortunately, in American society, today, far too many young men of color are killed by the police because there was a mistake in the belief that they were reaching for something,” said Attorney Crump. “We will never overcome this pattern and practice of them stopping people for driving while Black unless we report them.”

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